True Boomers have many sins but they didn’t initiate the civil rights acts nor abortion. it was their parents the silent and greatest generations. The boomers sin was embracing it and championing it later on. Though the biggest generational sin of theirs was not ensuring the successive generations prospered as equally as them.
Ngl I don't blame the Boomers, not exactly but I am going to admit am very tired of this Empire (am a Francophone Canadien). I like working and hate competing with people from outside the country for jobs, as I drag my aging rear back to school. It's tough that we can't close the damn border because of politicians and all in the name of an Empire that stopped functioning as you said around 1860.
You would really enjoy the rest of my content. I often mention how this empire is not a nation nor a country. I am an Appalachian; we hate the federal government.
As a tail-end boomer('62)I remember MY grandfather explaining to my young 8 yo.ears about tags and licenses and fees just to go fishing(or do anything)and because I asked....I got the old saw about how "the greater good"and "qualify" and how taxes blah,blah,blah....you know the speech...we ALL know "the speech"!...I hard a hard time believing it then and I remember NOT liking his answer..in my mind you grab your pole and tackle box and go fishing!....
Each generation should take stock,BE RESPONSIBLE in understanding your part and realize a whole lot of people DIDNT know then what we know now....like trusting the TV!....so,Blame belongs to the LONG view...each generation handed off to the next something imperfect,welcome to life on this planet,Pal......now get up and DO something......
See the greatest generation handed off institutions. I understand the need for fees to pay for the stewardship of waterways. I live at the river in the summertime. The problem comes down to the defense and normalization of your generations shitty selfish actions.
The Boomers didn't start much of this. BUT they have lived their entire lives benefitting from it - and even now, when disaster is obvious, they fight tooth and nail against any form of solution (see: Canadian election, 2025). It's one thing to make a mistake. It's wrong to persist in it. It's damnable to fight against correcting it.
Along the way, we have literally had to invent new terms in language for their wicked behaviors, and this has continued into their old age.
I have to admit that with the wreckage that is the entirety of our political class and that we’ve someone who wants to legalize pedophilia about to be elected it’s hard to argue.
Bernier, Poilievre and Singh are all the same creature as Turdeau.
What’s needed is a Homeland Party or Monarchy movement like in France, or coordinated efforts by small parties in Canada to take local seats and overturn federal decisions like in Japan. The trouble is our political class is deeply loyal to the Globalist American Empire, so they take their directives from it and care nothing for anything or anyone else.
They’d rather cater to boomers in the big cities and in the American cities than to Canadians. It’s deeply discouraging and dispiriting. I don’t foresee any peaceful solutions.
Hey, Joe, what do you make of Boomers who have been severely disabled since childhood? Did they contribute to the consumption of the carcass with the same relish as the healthy Boomers? What do you think should happen to such people?
I think the Boomer label stretches too far yearwise. I was born in 1964 and I align much more with the Generation Jones label. Those of us born at the tail end were the younger brothers and sisters that watched our parents and older siblings burn their life out with drugs and sex and stupidity; tossing such quaint terms as "responsibility" and "duty" in the trash. We were stuck raising the younger kids that both our early Boomer parents and older siblings abandoned. A job we were definitely not cut out for. I was 13 when my parents split and life descended into madness; left to raise my Gen X sister. Sorry Sis, did the best I could. Nothing was handed down to me because my parents and older siblings burned through it all.
We see with vocabulary. We cannot be individuals when it comes to societal ills. You have to treat problems with a large bandage, not tiny sutures. It's like telling people to learn to code. Putting the honess on people to solve problems that affect whole nations is not only unfair but ultimately futile. So boomers get labeled as a cohort. Best we got buddy.
Haha, it's ok, I'm not offended. I am what I am, not what people say I am. Not knocking your analysis at all, more just the year span. Who the hell wants to be lumped in with that!
They say my generation eats avocado toast, rides scooters, and uses beard butter. I have never had an avocado, owned a scooter, and cant grow a proper beard at 41. So, all of us are exceptions to the rule.
I've always thought that generationalism was as dumb as racism. Human beings are too complex to be reduced to a birth cohort. It reminds me of the British school system, which I think has been reformed ( if the British even have a school system anymore ), in which students took a test at age fifteen which was essentially a casting of the die as far as their futures were concerned. Those who scored below a certain level were slotted to lower middle class life, at best; those who scored above were put on the fast track to "university." The problem with such systems, whether chronological or educational, is that they do not acknowledge exceptions.
For one thing, 45,000 Boomers died in southeast Asia, and from this we can gather that they missed out on Boomerica. Wouldn't you agree?
Then, there were the millions who have been stuck with raising the grandchildren that their drug addled GenX and Millennial children have proven to be hopeless to deal with.
Let's not forget the millions of hardworking Boomers who got wiped out in the crash of 2008.
I was born in 1952, and consider chronology to be about the only thing I have in common with what is thought to be the Boomer cohort. I have been a Christian since I was four, and never had anything to do with the sexdrugsandrock'n'roll culture which is said to have been Boomertypical. I have three first cousins who have been various kinds of stock character Boomer pigs, but I have three other first cousins who were ( two have died ) and are deeply admirable people, serious Christians with children whose behavior speaks well of them.
I've been severely disabled since I was seven, so I was never in a position to get in on the money chase which supposedly was prototypically Boomer, but it's hardly as though such people didn't exist before the Boomer generation. My parents were FDR/Truman Democrats, and they and I always had a dull contempt for the ambitions, standards, and general appalling taste of moneygrubbers. Whatever work I would have done if I had been healthy, and I think I know, it wouldn't have been work I'd ever have chosen on the basis of its economic prospects.
Rather than blaming the Boomers, why don't you consider the existence of original sin, that every person in every generation is affected by it, and that generic, pejorative thinking about any particular group will, if not challenged ruthlessly, lead to Auschwitz? After all, now that we Boomers, source of all dysphoria, are becoming old and frail, wouldn't it be merciful to you GenXers and Millennials for you to overcome that old shibboleth about murder and kill us off?
Listen man I don't care about your liberal ideologies and propaganda. Your coping and seething about how you are all destroying and enslaving the next generation is disgusting. Just say I'm sorry for what we left you. Say I am sorry for destroying our culture in the name of money. Just say I'm sorry for not recognizing there were things bigger than me. Or fuck off.
"Your coping and seething about how you are all destroying and enslaving the next generation is disgusting."
That is a non sequitur. It bears no relation to anything I said.
"Say I am sorry for destroying our culture in the name of money." I'm disabled, genius. My annual income is about $20,000 a year.
Anybody who identifies FDR/Truman with the Leftist ideology of the last forty years is a man of such surpassing ignorance that it's hilarious. Who do you think your Appalachian forebears voted for?
Did the best I could for my siblings. As a reward, all the ire they hold towards bad fatherhood falls upon my shoulders. Gen X is the scapegoat generation.
I did a search on the Internets a few years ago. But maybe I vaguely remember. I did see a similar looking one in a search. Someone said they get terrible mileage.
Cool. Looks like two Chevy Impalas and a Ford Fairlane. I have ‘68 Caprice I'm restoring right now. Got a line on a 396? Some idiot took it out, sold it, and put a straight six 250 in it. Sheesh!
You know, it could be a Galaxy. They had similar tail lights. Haha, I'll defer to the guy that actually lived there with the car and say you're probably right.
Strauss & Howe, who put a lot more work into generational theory than probably anybody else, make a strong case for generational demarcations based on peer personality rather than arbitrary birth ranges. They break it down like this (because of observable peer personality traits):
G.I. ("Greatest") born 1901-1924
Silent born 1925-1942
Boom born 1943-1960
13th/"X" born 1961-1981
Millennial born 1982-2004
Homelander born 2005-?
Generation Jones, Alpha, Y, Z/Zoomer, etc. are inventions by people who have not studied the historical cycle and the patterns of American history.
The Boomer birth range of 1946-64 was determined because of the years of the postwar birth spike (baby boom), not by grouping according to peer personality (which is formed by shared experience). Grouping by peer personality is much more useful (not just for Boomers, but for all). It is predictive, and makes it possible to identify the generation of faceless social media accounts for instance, after a period of observation.
Those born in the discontinuity (close to when one generation ends and another begin) can often have attributes of both, skewing one direction or the other. Hussein Obama, for example, behaves much more like a late cohort Boomer than an early cohort 13er (X), which he technically is.
It is true the Boomers didn't start our slide into oblivion, but as the author notes, they perpetuate it, have worsened it exponentially, benefited from it, and deny their own complicity in it.
Hell, I'll see and raise the blame game and implicate the so-called Greatest Generation. After all, they re-elected FDR four times and allied with the commies to dismantle the West.
FDR saved capitalism, now believe ne I hate social democracy but if you want to blame anyone blame the neoliberals. They hollowed out the west selling out the people to big business for penny's on the dollar.
The commies give more of a shit about the average Joe and Jill's then a fortune 500 executive who wants a fifth mcmansion, or the boomers who are nimbys.
The American government has routinely crushed working class movements at home and abroad in the name of capitalism. No war but class war.
It's ultimately the same people. Historian Matt Ehret has done an excellent job bringing all the disparate threads together to show that throughout history there has always been an oligarchy presenting the people with diametrically opposed paradigms that trap everyone into the same system. This is false dichotomy, what's best for human beings is much more complex than this either-or scenario. His channel Canadian Patriot's most recent episode of Breaking History gets deeply into how this works, as well as the ancient nature of it.
"FDR saved capitalism." The fact that you believe this demonstrates how deeply the socialists have indoctrinated the last several generations with their revisionist doctrine.
Blud I hate capitalism and wish it would die. Him saving it is a bad thing. The system exists to exploit the plebs, thing is you can only push it too far/long before they start getting mad. What FDR and other social democrats did was give concessions to keep the plebs docile. Then along come the neoliberals who began taking away the charity for the plebs.
My hope is the system finally breaks and is replaced with a system by and for the plebs. The communists don't hold power the people who hold power are the elites who trick us into fighting one another. Woke and anti woke is just the circus part if bread and circuses
Capitalism as a system exists to enrich the elite. You might have a small business or comfortable office job but what you are ultimately is a worker that the elites have payed off.
This paid off portion of the population defends the system because they get the scraps off the master's table. Comfortable but not truly secure. If something threatens the system it threatens your position so while you serve as the jackboots of the rich they gorge themselves on the efforts of the rest of us.
I didn’t say I was broke . I do get pensions, I have my own savings. But you are right! You guys are fucked! Late boomers like myself, we don’t do as well as the earlier boomers. But you are right to a point. Not all people from the different generations grew up in the same circumstances. I grew up in a housing project and spent my summers at my grandmother’s trailer court.
But I have better benefits than my younger co-workers. I also thought from speaking to them, that they hated boomers, because boomers sold out the ideals of the 60s, which the boomers did! I myself, except for civil rights, never bought into the counter culture.
I’m a late boomer, on the cusp. I never liked boomers myself. I don’t own any property nor do I own stock. I never inherited anything from my parents. Why not blame the parents of boomers. That generation spoiled them. That generation hid from them the reality of life.
See this is why. Right here. You did inherit the civilizayional capital and world build by your elders. You did live in the easiest and most prosperous time to ever live. Just because you are broke doesn't forgive it. You will receive millions I. Benefits from us while we struggle and you just try to excuse yourself like oh it's not me. This is why we are angry.
I'm confused. Why are you attacking him? Is he not correct that the boomers were bad people because their parents failed to raise them properly?
Is is fair to blame them for losing everything just because their parents weren't home due to war and work? I don't think it is, as when parents fail to parent their children, the educational lineage from parent to son which has been happening as long as we've existed is cut. They are in a sense not the children of the West, simply the orphaned inheritors. Honestly, I think millenials are not nessasarily raising their children more actively given the Ipads and whatnot, so this is gonna continue (yay)
Also, gen z isn't mad. Most of them support the sexual revolution, civil rights, immigration, gay rights, and abortion. Of course, it isn't their fault as it's the mimetic values they've inherited from the Boomers, but whatever. Idk how to end this, do you have a reason to think I'm wrong?
Look at Strauss-Howe generational theory. Fourth turnings, or the parade always comes back around.
If you survive to become old despite the malfeasances of us current wrinklies, listen carefully to the things your grandchildren will say about what happened while you were 30-50 and who is to blame, even though you pretty much did the best you could during your turn.
The thing is, guy, I have a lot of sympathy, even empathy, I think, for the crappy financial conditions your generation faces. It's vile that home ownership should be beyond the means of so many people in your generation.
But why hate me and millions of others who had nothing to do with it? Some Boomers ended up doing extremely well, but they would have done well a hundred years ago. It's long been known that the single biggest predictor of economic prosperity in anyone's life is the level of wealth of one's parents.
If you are looking to blame people politically, start with The Greatest Generation and The Silent Generation. When Reagan took office on January 20, 1981, the oldest Baby Boomers had been thirty - five for less than three weeks.
There weren't too many Boomers who had anything to do with helping to set Reagan's and George H.W. Bush's economic policies. If you're looking for a Boomer president and a Boomer administration to blame, Bill Clinton, who hasn't got a principle aside from his own interests, is the one to look to.
What's funny about this is that my first cousin, who is the epitome of everything yours thinks my generation is, is a sociopath who married into a wealthy family and has done his best to kill me. I loathe him, not because he's a Boomer, but because he's a monster.
My mentioning of FDR and Truman seems to have set off something cataclysmic in you. My impression is that you blame them for the current situation because they were Democrats. If so, this indicates that all of your rage is pissing into the wind, because you are a stunningly uneducated young man. Don't you know that we had a middle class in the United States in the postwar era largely because of the presidencies of those two men, and of Dwight Eisenhower, whose Republicanism was nothing more than a political convenience for him? Don't you know that an entire generation of Democratic officeholders from FDR to Truman to the Kennedys to Lyndon Johnson to Hubert Humphrey to George McGovern to Patrick Moynihan and many others fought for the reforms which made it possible for people to be homeowners?
I suspect not. So, you're left with inchoate fury. I suggest that the way out of it is to come to know God in Jesus Christ, and to begin to acquire education in something which interests you. I don't know what your gig is besides your Substack, but here's a word to the wise: rage doesn't wear well, and it isn't going to provide you with a decent life.
The reason the boomers did so well is that the generations before them dropped so many munitions on the rest of the globe that there was no competition. This nonsensical acceptance of FDR or Humphrey being responsible for the great times in America or the West more generally is fantasy. FDR and Humphrey inherited List's and Clay's work at building infrastructure and tariffing British goods, which allowed our nation to become the economic juggernaut that it was.
We dropped munitions on German and Japanese holdings because we were at war with them. We also rebuilt Germany and much of the rest of Europe after World War II. ( The Marshall Plan. )
If we built our national prosperity on the exploiting of anyone, it was our own whom we primarily exploited. ( Of course, Amazon, as an example, isn't exploiting anyone now, are they? ) Have you read about the sweatshops? Read about The Triangle Shirtwaist Company Fire in 1911. It was American social conscience, much of it Christian driven, which resulted in The Progressive Era. The first significant reforms were things like The Pure Food and Drug Act, passed during Theodore Roosevelt's presidency. It's extremely interesting to read about Franklin Roosevelt, then a 29 year old New York state senator at the time of the Triangle Fire, and how the fire, and the influence of Frances Perkins, and other people and events, came together to radicalize the privileged young FDR.
Then there was the whole union movement, one of America's great sagas, which happened over close to a century. The success of it was essential to the making of a large middle class. There are two great movies about the union struggles that I know of, The Molly Maguires and Matewan.
If you're going to be bitter against your country because of its stupidities and criminalities, I understand. To me, Reagan is emerging as the great if unwitting national villain of the last half century. It was insane for us to give up our manufacturing base. I don't see the United States as God's nation, but I suppose I do see it as the least worst nation on Earth.
Have you ever read about what has been termed Chestertonian distributism? I think you'd be fascinated by it. I think it would be by far the best way to organize a national polity. My cousin, a rich bastard who got his money by marrying it and is the most corrupt human being I have ever known, is a big believer in The System as it’s been for the last forty years, because he’s done quite well for himself under it. His brain can't distinguish between socialism and distributism because he's a psychopath and incapable of constructive thought.
My bet is that you are not incapable of such thought.
Distributism is essentially Jefferson's vision of small government, local government, but differs from it in that it's inherently a Catholic world view. But it has always been around in various forms. A book which would almost certainly interest you is I'll Take My Stand, which is credited to The Twelve, and which was published in 1930. The American writer, Wendell Berry, has written several books about the loss of America's base of small local agriculture, the best known of these being The Unmaking of America.
Your instincts sound paleoconservative, which mine are, as well. Here's a website for you: chronicles magazine.org
You may want to subscribe to their excellent magazine. At least you'll be intrigued by the website.
The key to an American future is localism: local agriculture, community cooperativeness, craftsmanship, homeschooling, avoidance of the state as much as possible, probably a barter economy/underground economy to some extent. It's about the only way we have of fighting back. Don't expect the government to do much, though who knows, God may be kind to us.
It's fine to be furious, but let it be an enlightened fury.
You know the younger generations could have stopped all this if they'd just put their phones down for a few minutes, formed some real political parties and then bothered to go out and vote for them.
Instead they sit whining about not having time while watching 30 hours of reality tv-shit a week.
The fact that the system was abused against boomers does not in any way justify boomers abusing the system further. Actions have consequences and if you generate multiple generations of angry retards waiting for you to die so they get a place to live, what do you expect?
There's a cool meme with sheets vs wawa it's like Tom n the dog. Then under it Jerry is chillin n it says rutters. Rutters is way better n they ain't involved in the bs.
We like it that way. Y'all can fight over the ashes while we just go live in the woods where we all learned how to build our own forts as small children. Better yet, we can stop smoking pot, start drinking vodka & move to Russia😂
Well you certainly know more than me about getting your faggot bitch ass stretched. And characteristically, you went on and on drooling cliche bullshit, all apparently just to hear yourself mew. If you have a point, make it. What do you want? If you have nothing to say then that’s preferable for the entirety of the planet, say that.
Hahaha faggot butt stretched? Strong words from a man with such brittle bones. Ya know what I want? I want the boomers to die with dignity. He'll maybe even give thier lives so thier kids n grandkids have better lives. Maybe stop pushing these weak Jewish ideas of Christianity onto the population. Maybe stop wanting to enslave your children. Oh wait I said that. You just don't wanna give up ya gibs
First, STFU about death, you have no say in it. Second, my cohort has resisted neocon espionage for decades — learn about the Liberty movement. Third, nobody but a degenerate like you could even fathom enslaving their children. Finally, you got something right, I am not going to give up what I have worked and fought and sacrificed for my entire life to pamper some useless, ignorant, entitled, narcissistic cunt like you. You are a cowardly blemish on my country. I owe you nothing, try and take it.
U spout neo con propaganda. You libertarian selfish fuck. Noone cares about freedom or liberty when your grand kids are being supported by the state because you are selfish.
I appreciate you pointing out how the silent gen set up a lot of these problems
True Boomers have many sins but they didn’t initiate the civil rights acts nor abortion. it was their parents the silent and greatest generations. The boomers sin was embracing it and championing it later on. Though the biggest generational sin of theirs was not ensuring the successive generations prospered as equally as them.
Ngl I don't blame the Boomers, not exactly but I am going to admit am very tired of this Empire (am a Francophone Canadien). I like working and hate competing with people from outside the country for jobs, as I drag my aging rear back to school. It's tough that we can't close the damn border because of politicians and all in the name of an Empire that stopped functioning as you said around 1860.
You would really enjoy the rest of my content. I often mention how this empire is not a nation nor a country. I am an Appalachian; we hate the federal government.
Don’t blame you after all that your people have been made to endure.
As a tail-end boomer('62)I remember MY grandfather explaining to my young 8 yo.ears about tags and licenses and fees just to go fishing(or do anything)and because I asked....I got the old saw about how "the greater good"and "qualify" and how taxes blah,blah,blah....you know the speech...we ALL know "the speech"!...I hard a hard time believing it then and I remember NOT liking his answer..in my mind you grab your pole and tackle box and go fishing!....
Each generation should take stock,BE RESPONSIBLE in understanding your part and realize a whole lot of people DIDNT know then what we know now....like trusting the TV!....so,Blame belongs to the LONG view...each generation handed off to the next something imperfect,welcome to life on this planet,Pal......now get up and DO something......
See the greatest generation handed off institutions. I understand the need for fees to pay for the stewardship of waterways. I live at the river in the summertime. The problem comes down to the defense and normalization of your generations shitty selfish actions.
The Boomers didn't start much of this. BUT they have lived their entire lives benefitting from it - and even now, when disaster is obvious, they fight tooth and nail against any form of solution (see: Canadian election, 2025). It's one thing to make a mistake. It's wrong to persist in it. It's damnable to fight against correcting it.
Along the way, we have literally had to invent new terms in language for their wicked behaviors, and this has continued into their old age.
Yes, I DO blame The Locust Generation.
I have to admit that with the wreckage that is the entirety of our political class and that we’ve someone who wants to legalize pedophilia about to be elected it’s hard to argue.
Bernier, Poilievre and Singh are all the same creature as Turdeau.
What’s needed is a Homeland Party or Monarchy movement like in France, or coordinated efforts by small parties in Canada to take local seats and overturn federal decisions like in Japan. The trouble is our political class is deeply loyal to the Globalist American Empire, so they take their directives from it and care nothing for anything or anyone else.
They’d rather cater to boomers in the big cities and in the American cities than to Canadians. It’s deeply discouraging and dispiriting. I don’t foresee any peaceful solutions.
Hey, Joe, what do you make of Boomers who have been severely disabled since childhood? Did they contribute to the consumption of the carcass with the same relish as the healthy Boomers? What do you think should happen to such people?
The macro is not the micro, and vice-versa.
I think the Boomer label stretches too far yearwise. I was born in 1964 and I align much more with the Generation Jones label. Those of us born at the tail end were the younger brothers and sisters that watched our parents and older siblings burn their life out with drugs and sex and stupidity; tossing such quaint terms as "responsibility" and "duty" in the trash. We were stuck raising the younger kids that both our early Boomer parents and older siblings abandoned. A job we were definitely not cut out for. I was 13 when my parents split and life descended into madness; left to raise my Gen X sister. Sorry Sis, did the best I could. Nothing was handed down to me because my parents and older siblings burned through it all.
We see with vocabulary. We cannot be individuals when it comes to societal ills. You have to treat problems with a large bandage, not tiny sutures. It's like telling people to learn to code. Putting the honess on people to solve problems that affect whole nations is not only unfair but ultimately futile. So boomers get labeled as a cohort. Best we got buddy.
Couldn't edit to add--I'm out here carving out the Generation Jones exception that proves the Boomer rule. 😆
Haha, it's ok, I'm not offended. I am what I am, not what people say I am. Not knocking your analysis at all, more just the year span. Who the hell wants to be lumped in with that!
They say my generation eats avocado toast, rides scooters, and uses beard butter. I have never had an avocado, owned a scooter, and cant grow a proper beard at 41. So, all of us are exceptions to the rule.
Avocados are an acquired taste but you should try them. My oldest son is 40, and he doesn't fit that mold either. 😁
I've always thought that generationalism was as dumb as racism. Human beings are too complex to be reduced to a birth cohort. It reminds me of the British school system, which I think has been reformed ( if the British even have a school system anymore ), in which students took a test at age fifteen which was essentially a casting of the die as far as their futures were concerned. Those who scored below a certain level were slotted to lower middle class life, at best; those who scored above were put on the fast track to "university." The problem with such systems, whether chronological or educational, is that they do not acknowledge exceptions.
For one thing, 45,000 Boomers died in southeast Asia, and from this we can gather that they missed out on Boomerica. Wouldn't you agree?
Then, there were the millions who have been stuck with raising the grandchildren that their drug addled GenX and Millennial children have proven to be hopeless to deal with.
Let's not forget the millions of hardworking Boomers who got wiped out in the crash of 2008.
I was born in 1952, and consider chronology to be about the only thing I have in common with what is thought to be the Boomer cohort. I have been a Christian since I was four, and never had anything to do with the sexdrugsandrock'n'roll culture which is said to have been Boomertypical. I have three first cousins who have been various kinds of stock character Boomer pigs, but I have three other first cousins who were ( two have died ) and are deeply admirable people, serious Christians with children whose behavior speaks well of them.
I've been severely disabled since I was seven, so I was never in a position to get in on the money chase which supposedly was prototypically Boomer, but it's hardly as though such people didn't exist before the Boomer generation. My parents were FDR/Truman Democrats, and they and I always had a dull contempt for the ambitions, standards, and general appalling taste of moneygrubbers. Whatever work I would have done if I had been healthy, and I think I know, it wouldn't have been work I'd ever have chosen on the basis of its economic prospects.
Rather than blaming the Boomers, why don't you consider the existence of original sin, that every person in every generation is affected by it, and that generic, pejorative thinking about any particular group will, if not challenged ruthlessly, lead to Auschwitz? After all, now that we Boomers, source of all dysphoria, are becoming old and frail, wouldn't it be merciful to you GenXers and Millennials for you to overcome that old shibboleth about murder and kill us off?
Listen man I don't care about your liberal ideologies and propaganda. Your coping and seething about how you are all destroying and enslaving the next generation is disgusting. Just say I'm sorry for what we left you. Say I am sorry for destroying our culture in the name of money. Just say I'm sorry for not recognizing there were things bigger than me. Or fuck off.
"Your coping and seething about how you are all destroying and enslaving the next generation is disgusting."
That is a non sequitur. It bears no relation to anything I said.
"Say I am sorry for destroying our culture in the name of money." I'm disabled, genius. My annual income is about $20,000 a year.
Anybody who identifies FDR/Truman with the Leftist ideology of the last forty years is a man of such surpassing ignorance that it's hilarious. Who do you think your Appalachian forebears voted for?
I suppose you are incapable of coming to grips with a civil argument because you are a vulgar dolt.
Exceptions prove the rule, for both of your isms.
Almost my exact story, except I was born in '81.
Did the best I could for my siblings. As a reward, all the ire they hold towards bad fatherhood falls upon my shoulders. Gen X is the scapegoat generation.
So you had a Fix Or Repair Daily.
Haha, the rust was the only thing holding it together!
All I remember about it was the upholstery was pretty worn. And it smelled like cigarettes 🤣 and my grandmother wouldn’t go near it for any reason 😂
I did a search on the Internets a few years ago. But maybe I vaguely remember. I did see a similar looking one in a search. Someone said they get terrible mileage.
I owned a ‘63 Galaxy. Poor gas mileage was the least of its problems. 😁
Gen X, here is my proof, based on my Pirates hat (1971) and the year of the vehicles.
Gen X, here is my proof, based on my Pirates hat (1971) and the year of the vehicles.
Cool. Looks like two Chevy Impalas and a Ford Fairlane. I have ‘68 Caprice I'm restoring right now. Got a line on a 396? Some idiot took it out, sold it, and put a straight six 250 in it. Sheesh!
I thought it was a Galaxy. I never noted the model.
You know, it could be a Galaxy. They had similar tail lights. Haha, I'll defer to the guy that actually lived there with the car and say you're probably right.
Strauss & Howe, who put a lot more work into generational theory than probably anybody else, make a strong case for generational demarcations based on peer personality rather than arbitrary birth ranges. They break it down like this (because of observable peer personality traits):
G.I. ("Greatest") born 1901-1924
Silent born 1925-1942
Boom born 1943-1960
13th/"X" born 1961-1981
Millennial born 1982-2004
Homelander born 2005-?
Generation Jones, Alpha, Y, Z/Zoomer, etc. are inventions by people who have not studied the historical cycle and the patterns of American history.
The Boomer birth range of 1946-64 was determined because of the years of the postwar birth spike (baby boom), not by grouping according to peer personality (which is formed by shared experience). Grouping by peer personality is much more useful (not just for Boomers, but for all). It is predictive, and makes it possible to identify the generation of faceless social media accounts for instance, after a period of observation.
Those born in the discontinuity (close to when one generation ends and another begin) can often have attributes of both, skewing one direction or the other. Hussein Obama, for example, behaves much more like a late cohort Boomer than an early cohort 13er (X), which he technically is.
It is true the Boomers didn't start our slide into oblivion, but as the author notes, they perpetuate it, have worsened it exponentially, benefited from it, and deny their own complicity in it.
Hell, I'll see and raise the blame game and implicate the so-called Greatest Generation. After all, they re-elected FDR four times and allied with the commies to dismantle the West.
I was thinking of that last night.
FDR saved capitalism, now believe ne I hate social democracy but if you want to blame anyone blame the neoliberals. They hollowed out the west selling out the people to big business for penny's on the dollar.
The commies give more of a shit about the average Joe and Jill's then a fortune 500 executive who wants a fifth mcmansion, or the boomers who are nimbys.
The American government has routinely crushed working class movements at home and abroad in the name of capitalism. No war but class war.
It's ultimately the same people. Historian Matt Ehret has done an excellent job bringing all the disparate threads together to show that throughout history there has always been an oligarchy presenting the people with diametrically opposed paradigms that trap everyone into the same system. This is false dichotomy, what's best for human beings is much more complex than this either-or scenario. His channel Canadian Patriot's most recent episode of Breaking History gets deeply into how this works, as well as the ancient nature of it.
"FDR saved capitalism." The fact that you believe this demonstrates how deeply the socialists have indoctrinated the last several generations with their revisionist doctrine.
"Tell a lie often enough, and it becomes truth."
Blud I hate capitalism and wish it would die. Him saving it is a bad thing. The system exists to exploit the plebs, thing is you can only push it too far/long before they start getting mad. What FDR and other social democrats did was give concessions to keep the plebs docile. Then along come the neoliberals who began taking away the charity for the plebs.
My hope is the system finally breaks and is replaced with a system by and for the plebs. The communists don't hold power the people who hold power are the elites who trick us into fighting one another. Woke and anti woke is just the circus part if bread and circuses
You’re just repeating what they taught you in high school civics.
I'm pretty sure high school socials wasn't interested in promoting communism. If anything they opposed it
You’re just repeating what they taught you in high school civics.
Capitalism as a system exists to enrich the elite. You might have a small business or comfortable office job but what you are ultimately is a worker that the elites have payed off.
This paid off portion of the population defends the system because they get the scraps off the master's table. Comfortable but not truly secure. If something threatens the system it threatens your position so while you serve as the jackboots of the rich they gorge themselves on the efforts of the rest of us.
Here’s the formula: simplify, demonize, polarize.
You know who should get the blame? The Greatest Generation! They raised them.
Ok boomer
I didn’t say I was broke . I do get pensions, I have my own savings. But you are right! You guys are fucked! Late boomers like myself, we don’t do as well as the earlier boomers. But you are right to a point. Not all people from the different generations grew up in the same circumstances. I grew up in a housing project and spent my summers at my grandmother’s trailer court.
But I have better benefits than my younger co-workers. I also thought from speaking to them, that they hated boomers, because boomers sold out the ideals of the 60s, which the boomers did! I myself, except for civil rights, never bought into the counter culture.
I’m a late boomer, on the cusp. I never liked boomers myself. I don’t own any property nor do I own stock. I never inherited anything from my parents. Why not blame the parents of boomers. That generation spoiled them. That generation hid from them the reality of life.
See this is why. Right here. You did inherit the civilizayional capital and world build by your elders. You did live in the easiest and most prosperous time to ever live. Just because you are broke doesn't forgive it. You will receive millions I. Benefits from us while we struggle and you just try to excuse yourself like oh it's not me. This is why we are angry.
I'm confused. Why are you attacking him? Is he not correct that the boomers were bad people because their parents failed to raise them properly?
Is is fair to blame them for losing everything just because their parents weren't home due to war and work? I don't think it is, as when parents fail to parent their children, the educational lineage from parent to son which has been happening as long as we've existed is cut. They are in a sense not the children of the West, simply the orphaned inheritors. Honestly, I think millenials are not nessasarily raising their children more actively given the Ipads and whatnot, so this is gonna continue (yay)
Also, gen z isn't mad. Most of them support the sexual revolution, civil rights, immigration, gay rights, and abortion. Of course, it isn't their fault as it's the mimetic values they've inherited from the Boomers, but whatever. Idk how to end this, do you have a reason to think I'm wrong?
You sound like a girl are you a girl
Few others are brave enough to challenge the Silent Generation.
Good show
Look at Strauss-Howe generational theory. Fourth turnings, or the parade always comes back around.
If you survive to become old despite the malfeasances of us current wrinklies, listen carefully to the things your grandchildren will say about what happened while you were 30-50 and who is to blame, even though you pretty much did the best you could during your turn.
The thing is, guy, I have a lot of sympathy, even empathy, I think, for the crappy financial conditions your generation faces. It's vile that home ownership should be beyond the means of so many people in your generation.
But why hate me and millions of others who had nothing to do with it? Some Boomers ended up doing extremely well, but they would have done well a hundred years ago. It's long been known that the single biggest predictor of economic prosperity in anyone's life is the level of wealth of one's parents.
If you are looking to blame people politically, start with The Greatest Generation and The Silent Generation. When Reagan took office on January 20, 1981, the oldest Baby Boomers had been thirty - five for less than three weeks.
There weren't too many Boomers who had anything to do with helping to set Reagan's and George H.W. Bush's economic policies. If you're looking for a Boomer president and a Boomer administration to blame, Bill Clinton, who hasn't got a principle aside from his own interests, is the one to look to.
What's funny about this is that my first cousin, who is the epitome of everything yours thinks my generation is, is a sociopath who married into a wealthy family and has done his best to kill me. I loathe him, not because he's a Boomer, but because he's a monster.
My mentioning of FDR and Truman seems to have set off something cataclysmic in you. My impression is that you blame them for the current situation because they were Democrats. If so, this indicates that all of your rage is pissing into the wind, because you are a stunningly uneducated young man. Don't you know that we had a middle class in the United States in the postwar era largely because of the presidencies of those two men, and of Dwight Eisenhower, whose Republicanism was nothing more than a political convenience for him? Don't you know that an entire generation of Democratic officeholders from FDR to Truman to the Kennedys to Lyndon Johnson to Hubert Humphrey to George McGovern to Patrick Moynihan and many others fought for the reforms which made it possible for people to be homeowners?
I suspect not. So, you're left with inchoate fury. I suggest that the way out of it is to come to know God in Jesus Christ, and to begin to acquire education in something which interests you. I don't know what your gig is besides your Substack, but here's a word to the wise: rage doesn't wear well, and it isn't going to provide you with a decent life.
The reason the boomers did so well is that the generations before them dropped so many munitions on the rest of the globe that there was no competition. This nonsensical acceptance of FDR or Humphrey being responsible for the great times in America or the West more generally is fantasy. FDR and Humphrey inherited List's and Clay's work at building infrastructure and tariffing British goods, which allowed our nation to become the economic juggernaut that it was.
Oh man, where to start?
We dropped munitions on German and Japanese holdings because we were at war with them. We also rebuilt Germany and much of the rest of Europe after World War II. ( The Marshall Plan. )
If we built our national prosperity on the exploiting of anyone, it was our own whom we primarily exploited. ( Of course, Amazon, as an example, isn't exploiting anyone now, are they? ) Have you read about the sweatshops? Read about The Triangle Shirtwaist Company Fire in 1911. It was American social conscience, much of it Christian driven, which resulted in The Progressive Era. The first significant reforms were things like The Pure Food and Drug Act, passed during Theodore Roosevelt's presidency. It's extremely interesting to read about Franklin Roosevelt, then a 29 year old New York state senator at the time of the Triangle Fire, and how the fire, and the influence of Frances Perkins, and other people and events, came together to radicalize the privileged young FDR.
Then there was the whole union movement, one of America's great sagas, which happened over close to a century. The success of it was essential to the making of a large middle class. There are two great movies about the union struggles that I know of, The Molly Maguires and Matewan.
If you're going to be bitter against your country because of its stupidities and criminalities, I understand. To me, Reagan is emerging as the great if unwitting national villain of the last half century. It was insane for us to give up our manufacturing base. I don't see the United States as God's nation, but I suppose I do see it as the least worst nation on Earth.
Have you ever read about what has been termed Chestertonian distributism? I think you'd be fascinated by it. I think it would be by far the best way to organize a national polity. My cousin, a rich bastard who got his money by marrying it and is the most corrupt human being I have ever known, is a big believer in The System as it’s been for the last forty years, because he’s done quite well for himself under it. His brain can't distinguish between socialism and distributism because he's a psychopath and incapable of constructive thought.
My bet is that you are not incapable of such thought.
Distributism is essentially Jefferson's vision of small government, local government, but differs from it in that it's inherently a Catholic world view. But it has always been around in various forms. A book which would almost certainly interest you is I'll Take My Stand, which is credited to The Twelve, and which was published in 1930. The American writer, Wendell Berry, has written several books about the loss of America's base of small local agriculture, the best known of these being The Unmaking of America.
Your instincts sound paleoconservative, which mine are, as well. Here's a website for you: chronicles magazine.org
You may want to subscribe to their excellent magazine. At least you'll be intrigued by the website.
The key to an American future is localism: local agriculture, community cooperativeness, craftsmanship, homeschooling, avoidance of the state as much as possible, probably a barter economy/underground economy to some extent. It's about the only way we have of fighting back. Don't expect the government to do much, though who knows, God may be kind to us.
It's fine to be furious, but let it be an enlightened fury.
chroniclesmagazine.org
You know the younger generations could have stopped all this if they'd just put their phones down for a few minutes, formed some real political parties and then bothered to go out and vote for them.
Instead they sit whining about not having time while watching 30 hours of reality tv-shit a week.
The fact that the system was abused against boomers does not in any way justify boomers abusing the system further. Actions have consequences and if you generate multiple generations of angry retards waiting for you to die so they get a place to live, what do you expect?
As per usual, gen x are not considered
Do you really want to be involved in this?
Hahahaha
There's a cool meme with sheets vs wawa it's like Tom n the dog. Then under it Jerry is chillin n it says rutters. Rutters is way better n they ain't involved in the bs.
We like it that way. Y'all can fight over the ashes while we just go live in the woods where we all learned how to build our own forts as small children. Better yet, we can stop smoking pot, start drinking vodka & move to Russia😂
I guarantee, this is how every Gen Xer feels about discussions when younger people mention the term “boomers”.
And now Heaven smiles for our victory.
Boomer of 1950, I am for Trump.
What is your compensatory demand, exactly, grievance boy?
Aww is the boomer feeling butthurt?
Well you certainly know more than me about getting your faggot bitch ass stretched. And characteristically, you went on and on drooling cliche bullshit, all apparently just to hear yourself mew. If you have a point, make it. What do you want? If you have nothing to say then that’s preferable for the entirety of the planet, say that.
Hahaha faggot butt stretched? Strong words from a man with such brittle bones. Ya know what I want? I want the boomers to die with dignity. He'll maybe even give thier lives so thier kids n grandkids have better lives. Maybe stop pushing these weak Jewish ideas of Christianity onto the population. Maybe stop wanting to enslave your children. Oh wait I said that. You just don't wanna give up ya gibs
First, STFU about death, you have no say in it. Second, my cohort has resisted neocon espionage for decades — learn about the Liberty movement. Third, nobody but a degenerate like you could even fathom enslaving their children. Finally, you got something right, I am not going to give up what I have worked and fought and sacrificed for my entire life to pamper some useless, ignorant, entitled, narcissistic cunt like you. You are a cowardly blemish on my country. I owe you nothing, try and take it.
U spout neo con propaganda. You libertarian selfish fuck. Noone cares about freedom or liberty when your grand kids are being supported by the state because you are selfish.
LMAO
You can’t even make it to stupid. You pathetic grifter.